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Comments on: Air Powered Car + It's Cheap! http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/ Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:00:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.5.12 By: Kevin Jackson http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-195 Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:26:44 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-195 Sorry Michael, there’s no new source of energy here. Just a talented marketeer and a dream. I wouldn’t expect them to be in the US for 30 years or so.

Hi CM,

Thanks for the Automotive X Prize contest information, please keep us updated.
I suspect Guy will have some last minute snag and not be able to make it to the contest.

By: CM http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-194 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:57:53 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-194 The latest news on the French Air car is that Tata motors thinks it needs several more years of development, they still aren’t for sale, and there still isn’t any independent confirmation of performance or range.

Guy Negre and team have entered the Automotive X Prize contest, planning two entries – one powered solely by compressed air, the other a compressed air/liquid fueled hybrid. Problem is, they’ve got some really stiff competition from the likes of Loremo, Tesla Motors, Aptera, Velozzi, Cornell University, and more – about 70 entries at last count! Quite frankly, considering the performance and marketablility requirements and the much better designs entered by others, they don’t stand a chance of winning. In fact, I’d be suprised if they made it past the qualifying round.

By: Kevin Jackson http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-192 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:06:37 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-192 Hi: Informed, Uniformed, wellfromed, formica, MrT, LaurenD, Ashish Gupta, Bert

Well it’s been a long time now (close to two years) are all of you still buying this weapons grade bull sh_t?

By: michael http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-193 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:16:40 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-193 This is great. It is about time for a new source of entergy. Oil is just to high. What about refill exchange compressed air tanks?
How much gasoline will be used on a 600 mile trip?
When will these cars be avilable in th United States?

By: ethan http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-188 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:55:51 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-188 i have better idea put mini wind mills on top of car that run to a rechargable battery engine

By: Nedlud http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-189 Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:25:01 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-189 I have just come across this website, following an article published in one of the local (Melbourne) dailies. The claims in this article may be of interest. They are similar to the original claims technically as published on your site, which I need not repeat here. However, this time round the “air-car” will not be made in India, but in Australia. As usual, the roll-out will take 5 years and cost $A5 billion, presumably of local investor’s money. Mr. Negre, who has just toured selling the project, claimed in all modesty that the vehicle, with an air heater, will travel many thousands of kilometres on one tankful of fuel (could it be unobtainium?).
To Australians such proposals are not new. In the 1970s an “inventor” named Sarich flogged the idea of a new rotary engine, which was revolutionary in having fewer moving parts. We never discovered why having fewer moving parts was so beneficial, but that was a minor problem, because Sarich never demonstrated a working prototype, not even a drawing. He would sketch, on request, something resembling a engine, but it had no valves or fuel system. He managed to interest the huge steel company BHP in the project. We used to say jokingly that early on Sarich had the experience and BHP the money, while later on Sarich had the money and BHP was left with the experience.
Today, this prediction has come true. Sarich now is an investment company, never having produced a working automotive engine.. It is, however, a public company with some $A 40 million share capital. As an engineer myself, I have good advice for anyone wanting to invest money in yet another scheme like the air car. If you look up perpetual motion on your search engine, you will find numerous attractive solutions. None of these were meant for fitting to a motor car, because motor cars didn’t exist at the time these “solutions” were put forward. The advantage of listing them is because it allowed an explanation in every case as to why they couldn’t and didn’t work.
Here is another suggestion that won’t work, but is very like those proposed by ITMIDI. When you travel by car next time, stick one of the toy windmills out of the window, and attach a small generator to it. If you believe that the energy produced by this generator comes to you free of charge, enrol in a first year physics course at the nearest technical school.
As for me, yes, you are right. It is all sour grapes; I had the idea of patenting a car that runs entirely on bullshit, but I now see it has already been done. DRAT!

By: Jo http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-190 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:03:21 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-190 I still don’t see why you’d want to waste energy compressing air with an electric engine instead of just using the electric engine directly as the car’s motor. Battery technology has come a long way since the late 90s when this project began. Is there some great advantage to compressing the air and using that as energy storage instead of using batteries as energy storage? It’s not as though those filled compressed air tanks are exceptionally lighter or safer than today’s best batteries at 200Wh/Kg energy density.

By: Mac http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-191 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:10:51 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-191 Hi All

Have a look on the web for the fastest bicycle in the world 70 mph on 400 watts of human power.

Even if compressing air is only 50 % efficient you can build a wind turbine at home, if the compressed air is free who cares if its inefficient.

If you have a wind turbine at home the wind turbine will have the potential to provide a 24 hour cycle storing compressed air in a tank for you to move to a high pressure tank on your vehicle.

You only need one hour of driving time on average to get to work. If the required pressure was not achieved in the tanks by 3 am then electricity could be used to top it up so you can fill up before you go to work. Its simple and easy to achieve and we can all make our own harware as it is not high tech.

Any thing is possible its just funding, motivation and time that we all lack.

By: Kevin Jackson http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-187 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:10:01 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-187 Hi Bert,

It can be amazing to see what the future brings, however, neither plasma drives or desktop computers violate the laws of thermodynamics.

While we don’t know what the future will bring, we do know some of the things the future will not bring. Efficencies over unity, free energy (unless you harvest it yourself) and air powered cars.

By: Kevin Jackson http://www.futurefeeder.com/2005/01/air-powered-car-its-cheap/comment-page-3/#comment-186 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:57:00 +0000 http://futurefeeder.com/index.php/archives/2005/01/21/air-powered-car-its-cheap/#comment-186 Hi Martin and dundich,

I wouldn’t be so sure about “ONLY positive with NO negatives” when considering compressed air energy recovery systems.

I speculate, with the really poor efficency of “air”, the weight of the air compressor/motor, storage tank(s) and control system may cause the car to consume more energy than can be recovered by the braking energy recovery air system.

Your mileage may be worse with braking energy recovery than without it!